Comments on: Report on Detention/Abuse of Women in Iraqi Prison Camps http://www.feministpeacenetwork.org/2007/10/29/report-on-detentionabuse-of-women-in-iraqi-prison-camps/ UrGently Fierce Feminism In Perilous Times Fri, 03 Feb 2012 01:02:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: John 512 http://www.feministpeacenetwork.org/2007/10/29/report-on-detentionabuse-of-women-in-iraqi-prison-camps/comment-page-1/#comment-33343 John 512 Sat, 03 Nov 2007 09:42:44 +0000 http://www.feministpeacenetwork.org/2007/10/29/report-on-detentionabuse-of-women-in-iraqi-prison-camps/#comment-33343 I SUBMIT THAT OUR COUNTRIES SHOULD LEAVE THESE WARS & LEARN FROM THE EVENTS NOT TO TAKE PART IN THE WAR CRIMES OF USA. OUR LEADERS WHO COMMITTED TO THESE WAR'S & ITS METHODS (RAPE;TORTURE;DEPRIVATION OF LIBERTY OF OPPONENTS & FAMILY MEMBERS; & REASONS FOR THE WAR, SHOULD ALL BE TAKEN BEFORE OUR COURTS FOR TRIAL & SENTENCED TO BE HANDED OVER TO THE PEOPLE OF THE NATIONS THEY HAVE HAD US ATTACK , FOR FALSE REASONS . THE SECURITY PEOPLE WHO HAVE GIVEN ADVICE MADE PUBLIC THAT IRAQ HAD WMD SHOULD BE GIVEN TRIAL & GIVEN OVER TO IRAQ OR OTHER COUNTRY INVADED FOR PUNISHMENT. THAT IS BECAUSE BESIDES PUBLICLY SAYING IRAQ HAD WMD , THEY HAD TO HAVE PRIVATELY GIVEN ADVICE TO USA & OTHER GOVERNMENTS THAT IN FACT IRAQ DID NOT HAVE SAID WMD ... AS OTHERWISE USA ETC. WOULD NOT HAVE DARED TO ATTACK. I SUBMIT THAT OUR COUNTRIES SHOULD LEAVE THESE WARS & LEARN FROM THE EVENTS NOT TO TAKE PART IN THE WAR CRIMES OF USA.

OUR LEADERS WHO COMMITTED TO THESE WAR’S & ITS METHODS (RAPE;TORTURE;DEPRIVATION OF LIBERTY OF OPPONENTS & FAMILY MEMBERS; & REASONS FOR THE WAR, SHOULD ALL BE TAKEN BEFORE OUR COURTS FOR TRIAL & SENTENCED TO BE HANDED OVER TO THE PEOPLE OF THE NATIONS THEY HAVE HAD US ATTACK , FOR FALSE REASONS .

THE SECURITY PEOPLE WHO HAVE GIVEN ADVICE MADE PUBLIC THAT IRAQ HAD WMD SHOULD BE GIVEN TRIAL & GIVEN OVER TO IRAQ OR OTHER COUNTRY INVADED FOR PUNISHMENT.

THAT IS BECAUSE BESIDES PUBLICLY SAYING IRAQ HAD WMD , THEY HAD TO HAVE PRIVATELY GIVEN ADVICE TO USA & OTHER GOVERNMENTS THAT IN FACT IRAQ DID NOT HAVE SAID WMD … AS OTHERWISE USA ETC. WOULD NOT HAVE DARED TO ATTACK.

]]> By: rassool snyman http://www.feministpeacenetwork.org/2007/10/29/report-on-detentionabuse-of-women-in-iraqi-prison-camps/comment-page-1/#comment-33090 rassool snyman Thu, 01 Nov 2007 04:18:53 +0000 http://www.feministpeacenetwork.org/2007/10/29/report-on-detentionabuse-of-women-in-iraqi-prison-camps/#comment-33090 it is sad and frightening that femimist movements and women in general seek to fight "soft wars" on gender. gender struggles are at their most vocal in urban areas in "peaceful" environments. one would have thought the gender battles would heve been fought at the fronts where discrimination is at its worst. rape as a weapon of war is understated and and under-engaged in almost all military fronts. one could almost believe that gender wars are selective and choices are made on sounding politically correct at different points and time. rape as a weapon of war is serious but in certain areas like Palestine or Iraq or Sudan it is somehow seen as a lesser crime. is there perhaps a race and perhaps geographical bias equation in this approach. if Iraqis raped American women in Washington would it be a greater or lesser crime than the current status quo. would there be a murmur for "evidence" or would there be an outcry at inception followed by a stronger and stringent search for evidence. racism at an attitudinal level is a disturbing thread that seems to run through the feminist movements and political correctness a type of insanity. if gender wars are to be fought, and they are wars, they would need to be approached with an air of openness and introspection. the current appoach bears echoes of the racist south where the rape of a black slave woman was deemed less that the rape of a white woman until and unless the approach is in the context of equality, the battles will yield less results and the discrimantion perpetuated in fact it may well be an address of the face of the problem not a solution of the problem itself at a principle level warmest regards rassool it is sad and frightening that femimist movements and women in general seek to fight “soft wars” on gender. gender struggles are at their most vocal in urban areas in “peaceful” environments. one would have thought the gender battles would heve been fought at the fronts where discrimination is at its worst. rape as a weapon of war is understated and and under-engaged in almost all military fronts. one could almost believe that gender wars are selective and choices are made on sounding politically correct at different points and time. rape as a weapon of war is serious but in certain areas like Palestine or Iraq or Sudan it is somehow seen as a lesser crime. is there perhaps a race and perhaps geographical bias equation in this approach. if Iraqis raped American women in Washington would it be a greater or lesser crime than the current status quo. would there be a murmur for “evidence” or would there be an outcry at inception followed by a stronger and stringent search for evidence.

racism at an attitudinal level is a disturbing thread that seems to run through the feminist movements and political correctness a type of insanity. if gender wars are to be fought, and they are wars, they would need to be approached with an air of openness and introspection. the current appoach bears echoes of the racist south where the rape of a black slave woman was deemed less that the rape of a white woman until and unless the approach is in the context of equality, the battles will yield less results and the discrimantion perpetuated in fact it may well be an address of the face of the problem not a solution of the problem itself at a principle level
warmest regards
rassool

]]> By: Robert Egan http://www.feministpeacenetwork.org/2007/10/29/report-on-detentionabuse-of-women-in-iraqi-prison-camps/comment-page-1/#comment-33076 Robert Egan Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:56:11 +0000 http://www.feministpeacenetwork.org/2007/10/29/report-on-detentionabuse-of-women-in-iraqi-prison-camps/#comment-33076 It is interesting that we often criticize other countries while ignoring our own crimes! All we need is one more administration like this one and we will be able to witness public executions. Maybe they will hold them in 'Arenas' with our hired mercenaries doing the job like the 'Gladiators'. Of course, we would have to admit to torture as the 'subjects' condition would be a dead givaway!! (pun intended) It is interesting that we often criticize other countries while ignoring our own crimes! All we need is one more administration like this one and we will be able to witness public executions.

Maybe they will hold them in ‘Arenas’ with our hired mercenaries doing the job like the ‘Gladiators’.

Of course, we would have to admit to torture as the ‘subjects’ condition would be a dead givaway!!
(pun intended)

]]> By: admin http://www.feministpeacenetwork.org/2007/10/29/report-on-detentionabuse-of-women-in-iraqi-prison-camps/comment-page-1/#comment-33070 admin Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:29:32 +0000 http://www.feministpeacenetwork.org/2007/10/29/report-on-detentionabuse-of-women-in-iraqi-prison-camps/#comment-33070 There is no good answer unfortunately. Hopefully human rights groups on the ground there can investigate and if it is true, we will eventually know. There is no good answer unfortunately. Hopefully human rights groups on the ground there can investigate and if it is true, we will eventually know.

]]> By: Jose http://www.feministpeacenetwork.org/2007/10/29/report-on-detentionabuse-of-women-in-iraqi-prison-camps/comment-page-1/#comment-33057 Jose Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:42:50 +0000 http://www.feministpeacenetwork.org/2007/10/29/report-on-detentionabuse-of-women-in-iraqi-prison-camps/#comment-33057 How would it be possible to get more substantiated evidence corroborating such horrific abuses occurring in these infamous US/Iraqi prisons? How would it be possible to get more substantiated evidence corroborating such horrific abuses occurring in these infamous US/Iraqi prisons?

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